i love you
congratz on bronze brothaman!
well arent you guys a bunch of smart motherfuckers. no seriously.you guys are some smart motherfuckers. there is such a thing as elementary morality. just ask a child.they will tell you. now there are institutions and religions who will attempt to sway your morality to align with theirs but thats just a series of levers for control. ya know. speaking on a personal level.for every kid i meet that is absolutely clueless i meet guys like you two. this gives me hope. you two stay awesome.
its all good BB. i was watching that video and reading the comments with my grand daughter on my lap and i just started waxing nostalgic about my boys. the successes .. the failures... but just that day my oldest had thanked me for always being straight up and the rock he needed me to be. which sometimes included kicking his ass. and othertimes just being a person to lean on. the thing that really struck me was how he told me he never once,no matter how angry i was with him,felt i didnt love him. so yeah..that was my mind frame when i wrote that comment. sorry you thought it was a slight towards you. i would have tagged you if it was. i am pretty straightforward on most matters. stay awesome chicita!
@CreamK thank you so much for making my point for me. very awesome of you!
@Yogi chomsky ftw. says it so much better than i ever could.
@Yogi exactly my man. and i agree with you @VoodooV. ignorant people are ignorant. my point is that it is not ALL of them. i can disagree with the politics of the tea party but i will not dismiss them. at least not the ones co-opted by the koch brothers. who are obvious when they enter discussions by the very words and terms they use to make their argument. now THOSE people i dismiss.
i know this is rare but im with @bobknight33 in regards to the tea party. when you understand how power reacts to social movements things become clear. 1.they ignore you if that is unsuccessful? 2.they ridicule you. and if creating a narrative that your movement is either a.batshit crazy or b.dumb as a box of rocks they 3.co-opt you which is what the koch brothers did with americans for prosperity (sorry bob.these two douchebags dont give one fuck about you or your ideals) and it was quite effective in taking all that frustration,anger and a desire to get the country back on track,and funneling that energy into the political process. it worked extremely well. but what many people do not know is that those who were co-opted were not EVERY person who identified as a tea partier, many of those people saw what was going on and went in another direction. you do not hear about them often because they do not have a few billionaires bankrolling the media to follow them around. the occupy movement was treated in the exact same order.but they never got co-opted because they were set up in a much more amorphous and democratic way which made co-opting near impossible. so the occupy movement made it to step: 4.intimidate,threaten and strong-arm. a systematic tactical engagement to disperse the occupying people in the major cities where they were protesting. and it worked. but occupy is still around as is the tea party. corporate media is just not covering them. so this is the point i wish everybody to consider: do you REALLY think the tea party was stupid,bigoted and a fundamental christian? or that occupy was populated with unwashed hippies who didnt want to work but wanted the government to supply free food and strippers for all? or is it more reasonable to assume that maybe a corporate media which is beholden to power created a narrative to set people against one another? because ill tell ya what. a tea party person has more in common with an occupy person than a wall street ceo or somebody at the white house. there will be another movement. and its gonna go global. and i fear it will go to some very dark places that will be remembered for a long time in history. people are waking up and they are not pleased.
@dystopianfuturetoday i think i got my argument down to one word. took some time because you know me.. i comment like i think:rambling and incoherent. the word is transparency. if this dragnet is SO needed and SO vital to national security and catching brown people. then lets allow this giant pig into the courts and lets discuss the value of this particular intelligence gathering. lets shine a bit of light in those dark corners yea? a healthy democracy needs sunlight and fresh air the breathe.
@Fletch i love you in a totally inappropriate way.
@VoodooV god i love you. i did post some articles which reflect the expansion of power in regards to civil liberties and constitutional law. but im with @Yogi just because they 'say" they dont use that power does not mean they wont use it.historically it is quite the contrary. once power is given it is ALWAYS used in some capacity. but i agree with your contention about hyperbole and sensationalist media. i also agree that for things to change it is going to happen from the people, but for that to happen we must be informed and the government has done everything in its power to make this dragnet secret. and thats really my main beef with all this. secrecy. which even by your own argument is not necessary. we use facebook,google etc etc. maybe all this attention might give us some much needed checks,balances and most importantly...transparency.
@dag i love you man. no homo
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