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They were cleared by the U.S. government.
"thats affirmed. you are well clear of friendlies."
http://www.videosift.com/video/Cockpit-video-of-USBrit-friendly-fire-incident
This is from the BBC, and provides some much-needed editing and context.
So, not a dupe.
Imagine: You are in a room in a combat zone, with thick concrete walls and all hell has broken loose. You have been charged to keep a doorway secure so that your sarge can get a Air Strike. Multiple tangos inbound on your position and they parent gonna stop until every thing is dead. You are shaking so hard that you feel as if your heart is going to explode. You hear boots running towards that door, you clear the chamber of your SAW and prepare to let it loose. The "enemy" materializes in the door way, and let it go full auto praying that you don't get wasted by any ricochet, or the enemy. Because the air strike is just a second away. You wipe out all the guys at the door way and they are piled up almost to the top of the door frame, then you notice something about the moaning wounded, they have US flags on their shoulders.
These things happen, if some one runs up on your 6 with out yelling FRIENDLY and you turn round snap shoot them, there is nothing that can be done. We see it all the time in first person video games, and we will see it large scale and im die Fleisch in videos like these. Lucky for those guys in the video that they didn't wipe out the whole column.
It could have been worse.
Insufficient prep and outfitting isn't an "accident", it's a product of an incompetent administration pushing a strained military.
As to whether they've had previous combat experience, well, not everyone in the military can be a veteran. People get experience as they go along. But one can't just assume that even if soldiers don't have combat experience that they aren't fit for duty. They need to get that experience somewhere, and where else would they get it but on the field?
It just annoys me how quick people are to negatively judge military personnel these days. Yes, there are occasional incidents, but in general, they do a good job. One can look back at previous wars, where incidents such as friendly-fire situations were a LOT more common, and yet they weren't treated as such a big deal just because they were so common, and also because the information of these incidents wasn't spread so quickly/easily as it is these days.
In any case, events like this do happen, and we can only be thankful that it didn't turn out a lot worse.
Today people gasp at this one incident, yet they do not know of the numerous blue on blue incidents in Vietnam, and World War 2. The numbers of which would shock.
Theo47 your criticism is unfounded given the complex dynamic battle scape faced by these soldiers. With regards to combat experience, the air force does not have an unlimited number of veterans. This is why the Air Force has the Red Flag army exercises.
Pat Tillman's "friendly fire" incident was twisted by the government.
What is truly a "pity", Sylvester, is everyone's willingness to forget personal responsibility in war time. People who throw up their hands and say "war is hell" every time there's an atrocity are the truly pitiable ones.
That issue I don't even want to talk about.
They definitely don't teach us that.
I have to agree with Conan's comment though. All Quiet on the Western Front.....
War can only be understood and put an end to if you and all those who are concerned very deeply with the survival of man, feel that you are utterly responsible for killing others. What will make you change?
Those pilots were cussing, swearing, "oh shit"-ing, "I'm gonna be sick" and dead silent about what they did all long before one of them said "we're in jail".
I'm not indicting the entire Air Force, but it's clear these 2 (3?) chuckleheads had no business being on bombing runs.