This has to be some of the most worthless tripe posing as alleged news anyone can be subjected to-For example: News would be a near-earth impact on Venus!!

Non-news would be Immanuel Nobel's third son not rolling over in his grave shaped like a chemistry set full of stable ordinance, upon hearing the so-called Peace prise(s) are handed out to all-comers, who make some creamy teen-agers load in their sleep-Bleeegh! All presidents' suck!

Bejeeszus H. Chimera, transplant or transfusion, fake your pick!!! Can we simply throw shit at whoever poses as some leader android, or wHAATT!

Peace prizes are for effectual, human entities-Try 1964 or 1935, or any other year the award was allocated to the "special fund". Christ or Cthulhu!

Who else thinks the "peace prize is meaningless?? We can't be the only ones?!

"peace prize is meaningless"

Not pointed to you directly, but from the commenter's of this statement...why the outrage? The 'world apology tour' is probably not that great of insult in the greater context. If the man went around the world, speaking to world leaders on how we slipped and how we could be better and will strive to be better, then I can't fault the man for winning this achievement.

And it doesn't strike me that the world thinks Obama is a joke. Perhaps if the last sixteen years was all lollipops and good will to mankind, he wouldn't be that great of icon. So much hate and strife in the man's first year in office, it's a rather dismal feeling that so many have lost so much emotionally. You don't like him, you'll have another chance in just over three years to replace him with someone else. The country won't melt in four years. It didn't melt in the last eight.

I was not a huge fan of Bush, hated the war, hated the military complex, etc. But I certainly did not wish the man to fail. Quite the contrary, I kept hoping that his vision would pan out eventually. That all he was doing was actually for the greater good. And likely, his intentions were just that, even if the end result was something less then we had expected.

And here we try again, with Obama. Regardless if you hate him or not, what Maddow said at the end of her dialog was telling...our president won the Nobel Peace Prize. "Our" president. Don't like him, vote him out. But until his time is up, I'd like to see the country at least give the man a chance to try.

>> ^Phonecium:
Non-news would be Immanuel Nobel's third son not rolling over in his grave shaped like a chemistry set full of stable ordinance, upon hearing the so-called Peace prise(s) are handed out to all-comers, who make some creamy teen-agers load in their sleep-Bleeegh! All presidents' suck!
Bejeeszus H. Chimera, transplant or transfusion, fake your pick!!! Can we simply throw shit at whoever poses as some leader android, or wHAATT!


I will give you a Nobel for Literature if you agree never to write anything again.

Wow, what a shocking stance coming from Maddow. I would have never had guessed this from her!

Didn't watch.

I won't downvote, but isn't Maddow being hypocritical when she shows McCain saying that about Iran, when Obama is taking exactly the same stance against Iran?

Also, is force feeding, sensory deprivation and sleep deprivation torture? Because that's what our adminstration is still doing in our name.

^ Obama is talking about bombing Iran? Obama is so comfortable with the idea of bombing Iran that he makes jokes in public about it?

I'm more concerned about the torture thing, but I don't necessarily think either of those things are torture without information about frequency, duration, and some knowledge of the history of legal opinion. I know previously they were doing weeks of sleep deprivation, and months of sensory deprivation, both of which I would deem torture, even if the law said otherwise.

That said, I don't think Obama is sitting in these meetings pushing for more torture. I think he's fighting with an institution that got built up for torture, and is being a bit more conciliatory than I'd like.

Giving him the Nobel Peace prize seems like an attempt to shame him into being less conciliatory, and I think there's plenty of reason for people to believe that he is susceptible to being shamed, unlike the previous administration (or a prospective McCain/Palin administration).